[loz]

Hopefully everyone on here is well aware that scammers (usually nigerian) exist on the net, with the sole purpose to try and take your money.

It has recently come to my attention that unfortunately they are now targeting the classifieds section

Thankfully they are easy to spot, and i doubt anyone will actually fall for it :

KNOWN DODGY NIGERIAN SCAMMER EMAILS (SO FAR) :

morganpberloz@yahoo.com
morgansper@yahoo.com
chemberlozels@yahoo.com

am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansilvia.com please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

> Hi Morgan,
>
> If you are keen to come look at the car please call me on 0433 249 339
>
> Regards,> loz

Thanks for your mail, i appreciate your reply when I received your mail ,it is quite understanding . and clear i am highly interested on your property,(vehicle) kindly confirm your last asking price of your
vehicle,.Hope to hear from you soonest. hope the property is in good condition ,please i would have prefer knowing your last price to avoid low price offer from me, becouse i dont know how much
you are selling ,now confirm your last price ok

thank and have a nice day ,happy to do good business transaction with you. bye.

ways to spot a dodgy scammer :

- poor english / grammer

- shows little interest / little knowledge in what you have for sale

- talks mainly about money

- refuses to meet to inspect the thing for sale

- tells you how they want to pay. (Usually western union or other online wire transfer, but recently i have even seen PayPal scammers.)

i ask that anyone that has received an email like this, please post immediately in this thread, including their email address! (so that we can blacklist them)

[whyte]

just curious loz, how would he scam you & take your money if he is the interested person in buying the car?
or maybe what he is going to do is get all ur details, list it up for sale over seas somewhere & ptetend its his and that the buyer has to pay a deposit to get it shipped over.

[loz]

another example, same scammer different user :

morganpberloz@yahoo.com

Hello nather, we have concluded, making the payment
Thanks for your email and update on the bottom price($10,000),it was
accepted by my clientand he has directed us to issue payment to you. I
would need your assurance that the property whose payment we would start
processing,is in a good condition as the only view our client had of the
vehicle was on the internet and this purchase is hinged on his personal
judgement of what the property's state and output would be like,in
comparison to models of its category. However,he made out a certified
cashiers check of($15,000) before he travelled for a conference,for a
previous vehicle and its shipment charges etc,but it wasunfortunately
sold. The amount on the check he deposited for the vehicle is bigger than
what should be paid to you now, so the check is now meant for the total
expenses which includes the purchase of your vehicle ,its pick up from its
present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping
arrangements.However he has instructed us to bikery on with this
transaction. So when payment gets to you, you're required to deduct the
cost of your vehicle ($10,000) and send the balance of($5,000) to my client
shipping agent to enable him offsett shipping charges/arrangements. Once
the transaction is concluded, My client shipping agent will be coming for
the pick up of the vehicle from its present location, on an access to a
prepaid shipper for shipment,and also conclude other necessary shipping
arrangements. So you dont have to bother yourself about the pick up and
shipping rrangements, while title papers and other necessary documets will
be sent by you via fedex courier . Please Confirm this and provide (1)
NAME (2) CONTACT ADDRESS AND CONTACT PHONE NUMBER(s) for check payment to
be delivered to you via regular mail immediately , please remove the add
of the vehicle from the internet to avoid complications from other buyers

[whyte]

god damn, that 2nd email is more dodgier then the first one you got.

[blingcommander]

almost as dodgy as alex k being allowed on this site now

[8700S14]

Do they expect that someone will send them 5,000 before the 15,000 clears?

I dont doubt its a scam, i just cant work out how they get money from it unless the above occurs.

[chris268]

8700S14, on Jun 25 2009, 01:32 PM, said:

Do they expect that someone will send them 5,000 before the 15,000 clears?

I dont doubt its a scam, i just cant work out how they get money from it unless the above occurs.

yep, some people do unfortunately. rarely happens, but they do.

[i want a silvia]

loz, on Jun 25 2009, 10:54 AM, said:

ways to spot a dodgy scammer :

- poor english / grammer

- shows little interest / little knowledge in what you have for sale

- talks mainly about money

Well, if these criteria are anything to go by, most PMs I receive about stuff for sale advertised here are scammers...or typical NS.com members!

[kustom]

what happens is, they pay you 15k. you send the car, they withdraw the 15k. i forgot how they withdraw but they do it somehow... either way loz is right, it's a scam. if they spoke proper f**king english they would get a lot more people :/ -- that's usually the biggest give away

[loz]

they look like they put 15k in your account. you legitimately send them 5k... they cancel the transfer of 15k.... you lose your money....

generally thats how it works....

[Softy]

You seem to know alot about this loz.

[whyte]

kustom, on Jun 25 2009, 05:32 AM, said:

what happens is, they pay you 15k. you send the car, they withdraw the 15k. i forgot how they withdraw but they do it somehow... either way loz is right, it's a scam. if they spoke proper f**king english they would get a lot more people :/ -- that's usually the biggest give away

ahh now thats understandable.

whos alex K?

[nisskid]

loz, on Jun 25 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

ways to spot a dodgy scammer :

[/size][/color][/font][indent]- poor english / grammer

- shows little interest / little knowledge in what you have for sale

- talks mainly about money

- refuses to meet to inspect the thing for sale

by that logic, 95% of ns users are scammers

ud think they'd invest a bit of time in getting the english right in a generic email they send to thousands of people.

[chris268]

loz, on Jun 25 2009, 02:39 PM, said:

they look like they put 15k in your account. you legitimately send them 5k... they cancel the transfer of 15k.... you lose your money....

generally thats how it works....

here's how it works...

- they tell you they're interested in your car.
- then they tell you they'll buy your car but need to send you an amount in excess of what your asking for. usually it's some bullshit reason they try to jazz up and make believable.
- they will then either tell you they're going to send a cheque or a paypal payment to you. if they send you a cheque, it'll bounce (obviously). if you agree to paypal, they just make up a fake receipt and tell you there's some delay because of such and such and the funds will be in your account within a few days.
- they then tell you to deposit the excess amount to usually a western union account. if you do so, you'll never hear from them again.

other ways to know you're dealing with a scammer...
- they RARELY ever contact you via telephone.
- they will never provide you with their landline or mobile
- they will always use free email accounts... hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc.

obviously there's more communication and f**king around but that's the basic outline of what happens.

beware y0!

[Howie]

got that email this morning

Quote

\Name: morgan
Email: morgansper@yahoo.com
Message:
am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansilvia.com please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

Listing URL: http://www.nissansil...g.php?view=1902

dodgy f**k, didn't realise he was a scammer and replied to him. thanks for the headsup.

[loz]

IF PEOPLE CAN JUST REPLY SAYING : YOU ARE A DODGY SCAMMER.


HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GET THE MESSAGE.

[nisskid]

isnt it just automated though? so if u reply, you will just get a automated response back assuming that ur interested.

honestly ur probably better off not replying at all, if they have a way of logging data regarding replies etc, then it will show that no one is replying from this site, and they will move on.

[White_sr20]

LOL His SCAM Had me going till i noticed it was replyed at 3am


Attachments, pictures, and links in this message have been blocked for your safety. Show content
PAYMENT TERMS AND SHIPPING DETAILS Request - Your Classified Ad‏
From: Morgan Lopez (morganpberloz@yahoo.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as junk
Sent: Friday, 26 June 2009 3:00:58 AM
To: Adam Triantafyllou (xtr_386@hotmail.com)


Hello adam, we have concluded, making the payment
Thanks for your email and update on the bottom price($9,000),it was
accepted by my clientand he has directed us to issue payment to you. I
would need your assurance that the property whose payment we would start
processing,is in a good condition as the only view our client had of the
vehicle was on the internet and this purchase is hinged on his personal
judgement of what the property's state and output would be like,in
comparison to models of its category. However,he made out a certified
cashiers check of($14,000) before he travelled for a conference,for a
previous vehicle and its shipment charges etc,but it wasunfortunately
sold. The amount on the check he deposited for the vehicle is bigger than
what should be paid to you now, so the check is now meant for the total
expenses which includes the purchase of your vehicle ,its pick up from its
present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping
arrangements.However he has instructed us to bikery on with this
transaction. So when payment gets to you, you're required to deduct the
cost of your vehicle ($9,000) and send the balance of($5,000) to my client
shipping agent to enable him offsett shipping charges/arrangements. Once
the transaction is concluded, My client shipping agent will be coming for
the pick up of the vehicle from its present location, on an access to a
prepaid shipper for shipment,and also conclude other necessary shipping
arrangements. So you dont have to bother yourself about the pick up and
shipping rrangements, while title papers and other necessary documets will
be sent by you via fedex courier . Please Confirm this and provide (1)
NAME (2) CONTACT ADDRESS AND CONTACT PHONE NUMBER(s) for check payment to
be delivered to you via regular mail immediately , please remove the add
of the vehicle from the internet to avoid complications from other buyers

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Adam Triantafyllou <xtr_386@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Adam Triantafyllou <xtr_386@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: WAITING YOUR UPDATE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICEQuote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: morganpberloz@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 8:01 AM


Hello, car is advertised 9k with Rego Rwc, - will sell with out the RWC for 8k,

Car is in imaculate condition, there is bad spots on the paint but nothing unusall for a car made in 93, wouldnt really notice them everday anyway,


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:37:20 -0700
From: morganpberloz@yahoo.com
Subject: WAITING YOUR UPDATE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICEQuote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: xtr_386@hotmail.com

Thanks for your mail, i appreciate your reply when I received your mail ,it is quite understanding . and clear i am highly interested on your property,(vehicle) kindly confirm your last asking price of your vehicle,.Hope to hear from you soonest. hope the property is in good condition ,please i would have prefer knowing your last price to avoid low price offer from me, becouse i dont know how much you are selling ,now confirm your last price ok
thank and have a nice day ,happy to do good business transaction with you. bye.

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Adam Triantafyllou <xtr_386@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Adam Triantafyllou <xtr_386@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Quote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: morganpberloz@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 8:38 AM


hello,

Asking price is advertised and also resent photos are on there,

Thanks
adam


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: xtr_386@hotmail.com
Subject: Quote Request - Your Classified Ad
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:14:35 +1000
From: morganpberloz@yahoo.com

Hardtuned.net Classifieds
New Message
Hi white_sr20, You have been sent the following email from a visitor on our web site regarding your listing at Hardtuned.net Classifieds.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Name: morgan
Email: morganpberloz@yahoo.com
Message:
am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansilvia.com please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

Listing URL: http://www.nissansil...g.php?view=2398

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Best regards,
Hardtuned.net Classifieds Team
http://www.nissansil...com/classifieds



©2008 Hardtuned.net Classifieds

[White_sr20]

After Sending this guy back another email lastnight saying F*K off You Scamer i then receved another email

2mins ago saying,

I will not hesitate to tell you that i am currently in the Gulf where I am on active duty on a U.S Aircraft carrier as a security agent. We have limited use of telephones for now because of the disruptions it causes on the communications radar on the ship so i get an opportunity to use the phone once in 3 or 4 days, we even take turns using the computers here on board. I would have been able to conclude arrangements i will call you to conclude on details befor then let me have your contact details like
Please Confirm this and provide
1. LEGAL NAME IN FULL..........
2..........CONTACT ADDRESS.............
3.PHONE NUMBER....................

For check payment to be delivered to you via FedEx courier

[rb20silvia]

I GOT ONE!! BLACKLIST THIS PIECE OF S***

Was just about to stop emailing this guy anyways, seemed a bit suss...but then i read this thread!


morgansper@yahoo.com




WAITING YOUR UPDATE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICEQuote Request - Your Classified Ad‏
From: Morgan Sper (morgansper@yahoo.com)
Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 2:37:55 AM
To: Kiel Pozzey (kpoz@hotmail.com)

ok my offer can go for $9,700

--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Kiel Pozzey <kpoz@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Kiel Pozzey <kpoz@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: WAITING YOUR UPDATE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICEQuote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: morgansper@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:25 AM


Well $10 000 is my asking price. But that is negotiable so i need you to make me an offer. Also the car is in good condition, it has been looked after since i've owned it.

Cheers
Kiel


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:33:42 -0700
From: morgansper@yahoo.com
Subject: WAITING YOUR UPDATE YOUR LAST ASKING PRICEQuote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: kpoz@hotmail.com



Thanks for your mail, i appreciate your reply when I received your mail ,it is quite understanding . and clear i am highly interested on your property,(vehicle) kindly confirm your last asking price of your vehicle,.Hope to hear from you soonest. hope the property is in good condition ,please i would have prefer knowing your last price to avoid low price offer from me, becouse i dont know how much you are selling ,now confirm your last price ok
thank and have a nice day ,happy to do good business transaction with you. bye.

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Kiel Pozzey <kpoz@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Kiel Pozzey <kpoz@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Quote Request - Your Classified Ad
To: morgansper@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:12 AM


Hey mate,

The car is currently for sale for $10 000 neg. New rego is about to be put on until December and the photos displayed on NS.com are the latest phots i have of it. I have not got a roadworthy for it, but it will be sold with one due to the fact that i was unsure as to how long the car would take to sell. Please keep in touch if you are still keen.

Cheers
Kiel


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: kpoz@hotmail.com
Subject: Quote Request - Your Classified Ad
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:01:29 +1000
From: morgansper@yahoo.com

Hardtuned.net Classifieds
New Message
Hi rb20silvia, You have been sent the following email from a visitor on our web site regarding your listing at Hardtuned.net Classifieds.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Name: mogan
Email: morgansper@yahoo.com
Message:
am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansilvia.com please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

Listing URL: http://www.nissansil...g.php?view=2084

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Best regards,
Hardtuned.net Classifieds Team
http://www.nissansil...com/classifieds

[niclol]

White_sr20, on Jun 27 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

After Sending this guy back another email lastnight saying F*K off You Scamer i then receved another email

2mins ago saying,

I will not hesitate to tell you that i am currently in the Gulf where I am on active duty on a U.S Aircraft carrier as a security agent. We have limited use of telephones for now because of the disruptions it causes on the communications radar on the ship so i get an opportunity to use the phone once in 3 or 4 days, we even take turns using the computers here on board. I would have been able to conclude arrangements i will call you to conclude on details befor then let me have your contact details like
Please Confirm this and provide
1. LEGAL NAME IN FULL..........
2..........CONTACT ADDRESS.............
3.PHONE NUMBER....................

For check payment to be delivered to you via FedEx courier

Do they really think saying their a security agent on an aircraft carrier is believable

[blingcommander]

koguchi, on Jun 27 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

blingcommander, on Jun 25 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

almost as dodgy as alex k being allowed on this site now

I hope thats a joke..., if loz actually let him back in, thats totally fked up..

http://www.nissansil...?showuser=67325

user name was 550-hp till i reported him, then the user name was changed, and not banned....

[billyAHH]

Name: morgan
Email: morgansper@yahoo.com
Message:
am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansil...om/classifieds/ please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

Listing URL: http://www.nissansil...g.php?view=1418

[lilandonaki]

Quote

You have 2 new message(s) at Netbank‏From:Commonwealth Bank of Australia (netbank@combank.com.au)

Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 5:45:41 PM
To:


You have 2 new message(s) at NetbankDate Time Subject Direction Read Attachment Action
27/06/2009 07:19:47 Security alert Received No No Open
27/06/2009 07:19:46 Security Measure Received No No Open


Please visit Web Banker to read this message from our secure website.
Logon here: h**ps://www3.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/bankmain

seemed legit, but, because im a double-checking-kind-of-guy, i rested my mouse cursor over the link at the bottom.

Quote

h**p://laubervilliers-151-11-31-99.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr/

im dont think so, "commbank"

[LOCOSX]

niclol, on Jun 27 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

White_sr20, on Jun 27 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

After Sending this guy back another email lastnight saying F*K off You Scamer i then receved another email

2mins ago saying,

I will not hesitate to tell you that i am currently in the Gulf where I am on active duty on a U.S Aircraft carrier as a security agent. We have limited use of telephones for now because of the disruptions it causes on the communications radar on the ship so i get an opportunity to use the phone once in 3 or 4 days, we even take turns using the computers here on board. I would have been able to conclude arrangements i will call you to conclude on details befor then let me have your contact details like
Please Confirm this and provide
1. LEGAL NAME IN FULL..........
2..........CONTACT ADDRESS.............
3.PHONE NUMBER....................

For check payment to be delivered to you via FedEx courier

Do they really think saying their a security agent on an aircraft carrier is believable

I received the same deal as the other guys in response to my 180sx that i'm selling.

I knew it was a scam so I asked for her 'clients' actual address and her actual address, thinking this woul;d be the last email I would receive.

She gave both address, and one was her 'company' located at an address in the usa. Upon research of the exact address, it come up exact in a google search. Of a share trading company, nothing to do with the company she was claiming to be part of. Eg/ a vehicle finding service company for her 'client'.

I also noticed she is also on board an aircraft carrier in the gulf while writing to me from the US. Hrmmmm, what a multitasker!

[DRIFTKID]

Quote

Hardtuned.net Classifieds
New Message
Hi driftkid, You have been sent the following email from a visitor on our web site regarding your listing at Hardtuned.net Classifieds.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Name: chember
Email: chemberlozels@yahoo.com
Message:
am interested in your vehicle advertise on http://www.nissansil...om/classifieds/ please get back to me with your last asking price and the present photo

Listing URL: http://www.nissansil...g.php?view=1287

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Best regards,
Hardtuned.net Classifieds Team
http://www.nissansil...com/classifieds

Quote

Hey mate,

Attatched are 2 most recent pics,

Car is matte black.

I recently changed the valve stem seals car is still smoking numerous mechenic beleive it to be the turbo as engine compression is all good and car has not lost power. So i have recently purchased an r34 gtt rb25 neo t3 for the car.

I have also just purchased an ems dualsport ecu latest version available has hand controller loom igniter and air temp sensor.

This combo along with rx7 injectors has seen an fj produce 197rwkw in a gazelle in sa.

I have also just put series 3 trx rear disc brakes on as the gazelle origonally had drums and also fitted an sr20det s13 brake master cylinder. I left the original locker i have had for many years in there diff is starting to howl i also have another open h190 centre that will come with it. I never locked it as if ineeded it for rego/engineer i would have one.

Car has recently been defected and epa'd due to having no mufflers and the smoke from the turbo.

I still have the 3" muffler in the boot of the car and will need to be put back on if u want to get it back on the road.

Asking $5500 as is..

Here are 2 pics

http://img528.images...05052009207.jpg

http://img152.images...16042009178.jpg

Quote

Hello drit, we have concluded, making the payment picture ok
Thanks for your email and update on the bottom price($5,500),it was
accepted by my clientand he has directed us to issue payment to you. I
would need your assurance that the property whose payment we would start
processing,is in a good condition as the only view our client had of the
vehicle was on the internet and this purchase is hinged on his personal
judgement of what the property's state and output would be like,in
comparison to models of its category. However,he made out a certified
cashiers check of($10,500) before he travelled for a conference,for a
previous vehicle and its shipment charges etc,but it wasunfortunately
sold. The amount on the check he deposited for the vehicle is bigger than
what should be paid to you now, so the check is now meant for the total
expenses which includes the purchase of your vehicle ,its pick up from its
present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping
arrangements.However he has instructed us to bikery on with this
transaction. So when payment gets to you, you're required to deduct the
cost of your vehicle ($5,500) and send the balance of($5,000) to my client
shipping agent to enable him offsett shipping charges/arrangements. Once
the transaction is concluded, My client shipping agent will be coming for
the pick up of the vehicle from its present location, on an access to a
prepaid shipper for shipment,and also conclude other necessary shipping
arrangements. So you dont have to bother yourself about the pick up and
shipping rrangements, while title papers and other necessary documets will
be sent by you via fedex courier . Please Confirm this and provide (1)
NAME (2) CONTACT ADDRESS AND CONTACT PHONE NUMBER(s) for check payment to
be delivered to you via regular mail immediately , please remove the add
of the vehicle from the internet to avoid complications from other buyers

[DRIFTKID]

Quote

That is a shame for your client.

Unfortunatly i do not hold a bank account so i am going to need you to take the cheque to an authorised westernunion money transfer establishment If you give me your location i can find a place for you to save you the trouble. If you can not make it there for some reason i see you have access to the internet and you can organise a transfer on their website very quickly and efficiently at www.westernunion.com/



Once this is under way i will return the amount requested. This way is far faster then waiting for cheques in the mail.



I can guarentee your client will not be dissapointed with the car it is very fast and even comes equipped with a dildo for a gear knob so you can both go and f**k yourselfs!

[srjunkie]

lmfao what a dodge cnt

[DRIFTKID]

How half the people here cant speak proppah engrish

[JDM032]

geez this guy is really bad at scamming
you think he would realise people would be onto it after the first two or three times lol